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Episode Description - How to Break Free from Toxic Relationships with Leah Guy

Everyone knows the emotional pain of feeling stuck. But what if the key to getting unstuck lies in understanding your own energy patterns? In this podcast episode, spiritual teacher and healing artist Leah Guy shares her journey from trauma survivor to transformational guide, revealing how she helps people break free from toxic relationships and rediscover their authentic selves.

Drawing from over two decades of experience working with clients, Leah challenges common misconceptions about narcissistic relationships and codependency. Rather than focusing solely on the narcissist’s behavior, Leah dives deeply into BOTH parties’ behavior, since breaking those patterns is the key to making lasting change.

Leah emphasizes how important it is for the non-narcissistic partner to examine his/her own behavior patterns, energy imbalances, and childhood wounds that may be causing them to attract and maintain difficult relationships.

Leah's practical approach combines energy healing with concrete techniques for building healthy boundaries, developing self-confidence, and recognizing relationship "green flags" - like emotional availability and acting from desire rather than need. Through her work, clients have transformed challenging relationships, found fulfilling careers, and even overcome fertility struggles by addressing their energetic blocks.

If you’re struggling in a high-conflict relationship, this podcast episode may hold the key that will totally transform your relationships and your life.

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About Leah

Leah Guy is a spiritual teacher, speaker and intuitive healing artist. She's the author of three books including Overcoming Toxic Emotions, currently published in four languages, as well as the one-woman show, The Light Night of the Soul. Leah uses her personal triumphs over sexual abuse, addiction, anxiety and eating disorders, along with more than two decades of experience in private practice working with clients and organizations, helping people transform their lives. Leah inspires and teaches people how to access their fullest potential with practical techniques, guided wisdom, and entertaining concepts. Her courses and podcast have reached hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. 

Connect with Leah

You can connect with Leah on Facebook at Leah The Modern Sage and follow her on Instagram at leahthemodernsage.  You can catch her podcast The Modern Sage and watch her YouTube channel at A Girl Named Guy.  To find out more about how to work with Leah visit her website at Leah Guy.

Key Takeaways From This Episode with Leah

  • Leah Guy is a spiritual teacher and healing artist who transformed her personal traumas into a professional practice of helping others heal.
  • In relationships with narcissists, she advises people to focus on their own healing and pattern recognition rather than blaming the other person.
  • Codependency often stems from childhood experiences with neglectful, emotionally unavailable, or addicted parents, creating generational patterns of behavior.
  • A key indicator of codependency is being a "highly sensitive person" who learned to monitor others' emotions as a survival mechanism in childhood.
  • Emotional availability is a critical green flag in relationships, characterized by the ability to have open, vulnerable conversations and empathize without taking on others' energy.
  • True empathy is a "divine gift" that nourishes, unlike the draining experience of being overly empathic or enmeshed in others' emotions.
  • Healthy relationships involve partners who act from desire, not need - meaning they're complete individuals who want to enhance each other's lives, not fix or complete themselves.
  • Tuning into one's own energy involves practicing self-care, asking what you need to feel nurtured, and working with healing professionals who understand holistic mind-body-energy connections.
  • Energy work can lead to significant life transformations, including improved relationships, career opportunities, and personal growth.
  • People might benefit from energy healing if they feel stuck, experience repetitive relationship patterns, struggle with chronic anxiety/depression, or sense unrealized potential.

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How to Break Free from Toxic Relationships with Leah Guy

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

 codependency, narcissism, energy healing, intuition

SPEAKERS

Karen Covy, Leah Guy

Karen Covy Host

00:10

Hello and welcome to Off the Fence, a podcast where we deconstruct difficult decision-making so we can discover what keeps us stuck and, more importantly, how we can get unstuck and start making even tough decisions with confidence. I'm your host, Karen Covy, a former divorce lawyer, mediator and arbitrator, turned coach, author and entrepreneur. And now, without further ado, let's get on with the show

With me today, I have the pleasure of speaking with Leah Guy. Leah is a spiritual teacher, speaker and intuitive healing artist. She's the author of three books, including Overcoming Toxic Emotions, which is currently published in four languages, as well as the creator of the one-woman show, the Light Knight of the Soul. Leah uses her personal triumphs over sexual abuse, addiction, anxiety and eating disorders, along with more than two decades of experience and private practice working with clients and organizations, to help people transform their lives. Leah inspires and teaches people how to access their fullest potential with practical techniques, guided wisdom and entertaining concepts. Her courses and podcasts have reached hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. Leah welcome to the show.

Leah Guy Guest

01:29

Leah welcome to the show. Thank you so much, Karen. I'm happy to be here.

Karen Covy Host

01:34

I am thrilled to have you and I'd like to start, if you would, with a little bit of backstory. How did you start doing the things that you do? Start wherever you want to start.

Leah Guy Guest

01:44

Well, I came to it from my own trauma. Essentially, I was always very interested in spirituality and health, physical health, emotional health but I didn't really know about that so much when I was young. And then I went through a series, like we all do, of little T traumas and a couple of big T traumas and I just wasn't okay. I tried traditional therapy and it helped somewhat. And then a friend of mine introduced me to this school about energy healing, channeling, meditation, mind, body understanding, studying and so forth. And then I went there for my own healing and quickly realized this was something that I wanted to pursue. So then I continued my studies and trainings and started working with clients.

Karen Covy Host

02:31

That sounds that you know that's what so many people do is they use their own healing as a catalyst for other people. And I know that in the course of dealing with all the things that you've dealt with, you've dealt with a lot of people over the years who've had narcissistic personality disorder or other personality disorders or just, whether they were diagnosed or not, have strong narcissistic tendencies. So I'd like to start with that, because in the world of divorce and relationships, that's something that comes up quite a bit. So when somebody is dealing with a partner, a spouse or whatever who they think is a narcissist or has those tendencies, what should they do? How can they start to first, deal with the relationship and, second, heal from the abuse that comes with that kind of relationship?

Leah Guy Guest

03:25

Well, the first thing I suggest that they do is look at themselves, because if they're with a narcissist, they're probably exhibiting codependent behaviors themselves. They have imbalances on the other end of the spectrum. Everyone's on the spectrum. We're all sometimes a little narcissistic, we're all sometimes a little codependent. It's part of our nature, of our ego and ourself and our needs and so forth. But we have to stop looking at them. It's not going to take us very far. We can understand the narcissist, we can make it make sense somehow, but it doesn't do much at all for our own healing, for our own growth. We have to look at ourselves. Why are we with them? Why have we attracted them? Why have we stayed with them, and how do we resolve our internal conflict so that we can have a healthy, happy, full life, whatever that looks like at the end of that?

Karen Covy Host

04:17

You know, I'd like to dive into that a little bit more, because I know a lot of people who are attracted to a narcissist, who are in this relationship. In the beginning they don't even get it Like. They don't understand that they're in a relationship with a narcissist. They might not even know what a narcissist is Right. So is there a certain healing progression, like first you've got to see it and then you've got to go through certain steps, or how does this work? Because so many people are like what do you mean? That's not normal.

Leah Guy Guest

04:50

Well, yeah, I think we do have to see it, but sometimes that takes a very, very long time. Again, if we're just looking outside of ourselves for what is wrong, I think it's when we learn how to have healthy relationships with ourself. First, we have a protective mechanism in place, we have good boundaries, we have a sense of self, we have our values and we're operating from these places. We feel centered and grounded and self-confident and aligned. We're not looking for other people to satisfy our needs or our neediness. And so when we're already in a relationship and we haven't done our healing work, it can be very challenging.

05:28

It took me years to understand what was going on in a relationship that I was in at one point and it's not that I want to say I wish I was never in that relationship, because it was fundamental to my growth and to my understanding about myself, about relationships and people in general. But if I had the foundation within myself at that time, it wouldn't have been oh, I need to leave because I'm in a narcissistic relationship. It would have been. You know, this isn't really nurturing me in the ways that I need to be nurtured. I'm not feeling satisfied.

06:03

The values here aren't aligned with me, my energy is not feeling supported, and so forth, in a healthy way, I'm going to make a decision for myself to exit. So that's why we do the healing work and this is why I look at everything energetically, even if you don't understand energy fully, when we know that energy exists and everything is energy and we are vibrating and resonating at a certain frequency due to our past wounds or due to our healing, wherever we are on our journey, we are attracting and manifesting from that place. So, instead of this whole mentality of whose fault is it to just look at energy and think okay, there's something going on within and around me that is attracting these situations. It's not your fault, but here's where we find ourselves. We have to take responsibility for our lives.

Karen Covy Host

06:59

I love that. I agree with you wholeheartedly. But how do you, how would you approach someone? Let's say, I'm your client and I come to you and I am wildly codependent. My spouse or partner is got clear narcissistic tendencies. I necessarily I don't necessarily know what, like I haven't figured out oh, this is narcissistic, this borderline, this is whatever. I just know that I feel abused, things aren't going well, I feel like I'm being gaslit a lot and I know I need help. So I come to you. Where do we start?

Leah Guy Guest

07:40

Well, first I help you identify and see clearly the patterns that are at place in your relationship and I don't diagnose people, because that's not my job, but I help a person understand the full scope of what's happening. And then I turn our attention to you, to the where's the victim energy, where's the victim mentality, that where that you are somehow needing to be abused and I'm not again, this is strong language, but I'm saying from that sense of energetic, emotional imprints, patterns that we've played, where are you looking for someone to take advantage of you or say subconsciously this is not conscious. And so we go back into that. I include soul retrieval work, inner child healing, regression work to replay some of the old patterns and the old circumstances with our parents or with our siblings or with other caretakers or so forth, a long time ago that started to establish these patterns within us.

08:37

People pleasers, martyrs, codependents these are words that nobody likes. One. We associate them with weakness. But if we're looking at the spectrum and the polarity of narcissism and codependency, they're on the same spectrum and so most of us have similar wounding, you know, at the core, and they just display differently depending on our personality, our environments, who raised us, et cetera. So we have to get rid of this. It's him or her or it's me. Whose fault is it? And look at it from a wider perspective of okay, here's the operating mechanisms that I'm running off of and here's what I'm bringing to the relationship with silent, quiet, subconscious expectations. And this is why in my book, overcoming Toxic Emotions, it has nothing to do with other toxic people. It has nothing to do with blaming or figuring other people out. It's all about how do I understand myself differently, how do I really get in a relationship with myself where I can see myself and the patterns that I'm playing?

Karen Covy Host

09:41

So how does somebody do that? How do they see? And I understand that everything is about patterns and pattern recognition is a really, really important skill. But if you're not used to looking for something, you don't see it. So how can someone like what are they looking for? See vulnerability and strengthening those areas of ourselves to take the steps? Leah Guy Guest

10:03

Sometimes it's as basic as you know what. Why don't we start some CODA meetings, some codependent meetings? I have several clients that I've suggested that for. I've been to them myself. They're wonderful resources and starting to let other people witness and mirror for us the roles and the behavior that we're displaying, because it is really hard for ourselves to see ourselves. So CODA meetings are fantastic, but those tenants of self-confidence and how I trust myself, how I devalue myself or how I value myself, the self-love components, the inner child work, the boundary setting there's so many aspects to this so it really depends, when I work with a client, where they are in their understanding and their consciousness and their healing journey and where we start. Sometimes we have to start there. Sometimes we do some visualization or regression work and replay incidents from our past, and sometimes it's you know, it's a what I want to say a longer. I hesitate to say that because people, I think, want to. They want everything to go so fast, but it's the longer process of establishing really good, loving self-discipline so that we can create the self-confidence and feel more stable inside. So that's what we do.

Karen Covy Host

11:43

So all of these things the trauma, the wounding I'm presuming that all comes from childhood, but what kinds of things are we talking about? If I'm coming to you and I'm saying, okay, I have a past that has blah, blah, blah, blah? And it was like what am I looking for in my past? That might give me a clue right now that I have an issue with codependency?

Leah Guy Guest

12:11

Well, I would say some common ones, and this is just a short list, but some common ones would be coming from being raised by parents who were neglectful in some way, who were addicted in some way, who were emotionally unavailable in some way, who were narcissistic themselves in some way or who were codependent themselves in some way. And we're luckily, you know, of the generation still where we've. We have a lot of resources and in the past 20, 30 years it's become much more, I guess, socially acceptable to talk about these things, but the generations behind us did not, and a lot of us come from parents who hadn't had really done little to none healing work for themselves. And so we have these generational patterns that we absorb and that we react from a lot of times.

13:03

If you feel like you're a highly sensitive person, that might be a signal, because there's a difference. We're all intuitive, sensitive beings, but a highly sensitive person usually learned that behavior because they had to be watching out for everyone in the room when they were young, to notice if someone was okay. Is it going to be a good day? Are we going to have a dinner together tonight? Am I going to be all alone tonight? Are they mad? Are they going to hit me? Are they going to yell at me? Are they going to make fun of me? And this starts to set up the how can I behave to make sure you're okay, so that I'll be okay?

13:40

And so when you look at it from that perspective of codependency, the if you're okay, I'm okay that in and of itself is a very self-serving behavior. And what is narcissism? A self-serving behavior? So we're doing the same thing, just in a very different behavioral pattern of serving self by means of people pleasing, by means of not speaking our truth, by means of adapting to everyone else's wants and needs, because it was never safe for us to vocalize or express ours or for us to feel steady and calibrated enough within the family unit to just exist and be ourselves. So that's what I mean is it's, it's not.

14:23                                                                                                                                       

There's this very aggressive behavior against narcissists and, believe me, I understand in a narcissistic relationship it is very, very challenging and damaging. But we also have to look at this other piece of that, codependent or that, the way we play into that, and not make it all be this one-sided. These people are bad and I'm good and I'm good and I'm so good and I'm weak and I'm vulnerable and I'm going to give my life over and I'm going to be the doormat for everybody and I'm going to walk on the eggshells and I'm going to just talk about it all the time of how I've always done this. This is that even divorcing a narcissist is hell.

Karen Covy Host

15:11

I mean, there is no other way to put it right. But somebody will go through that hell to pull themselves out of a relationship. But until they've done the work, inside the next relationship they get into is same problem, different person. So that's a really good reason to start doing this kind of work and then hopefully, once you start to heal yourself, you'll be able to get into a better relationship next time, yes, and view our relationships.

Leah Guy Guest

15:52

They are really wonderful teachers for us If we can view them as that, as opposed to this is against me, or this is hard, or this is bad, but some of us, we've adopted that love language that to be in relationship or to be in love is going to be painful, or I'm going to have to lose myself, or I'm going to have to give everything to myself, and so, again, these are all internal beliefs that we have to look at for ourselves, because that's what we will attract, if that's what we believe Right.

Karen Covy Host

16:19

A hundred percent, but I also like some of the other work that you have done, which is the flip side of the coin, so it's a little a more positive spin. And you talk about the top 10 green flags for any relationship, and everyone's always talking about red flags and I think our society is focused these days, it seems more and more on us being victims and poor me, poor me, poor me. But the problem with that perspective is that it doesn't give you any power. As a matter of fact, it takes away your power. So, looking at the green flags in a relationship the things that should make you go yes, this is a quality person, this is a good, healthy relationship. This is what I want. Let's talk about them. So do you have a number one green flag that you can tell people about?

Leah Guy Guest

17:07

Well, I think a lot of the green flags that I've given to you, but a lot of them are dependent on one's own values, of course, because we're all going to need and want different things. But someone who is emotionally aware and intelligent and emotionally available, that is a green flag, and I will say, with that too, physically available, of course, some people can do long distance relationships and so forth, but whatever works for you in that way, but to be emotionally available is one of the top green flags.

Karen Covy Host

17:38

Absolutely. Let's talk about that for a second. When you say being emotionally available, what do you mean? How can someone tell if a person's emotionally available

Leah Guy Guest

17:45

If a person can engage with you in back and forth conversation and track with you what's going on in your life and also share open and with you what's going on in your life and also share open and vulnerably what's going on in their life. If you can witness a person being consistent in their personality. Of course we all have our ups and downs and our days that suck and so forth, but overall you know that we can witness in a person that they're pretty consistent and they have empathy for others without taking on other people's energy. That's a big one. We tend to think, oh, this person doesn't care if they're not riddled with guilt or shame or something because they saw someone hungry on the side of the street. No, that person may have learned how to empathize and also, in their quiet way, support or give back in a certain way or be supportive and helpful without taking on another person's energy. That's a very high EQ. Other ways people are emotionally available is if they're able to sit and just listen to you and be, hold space for you to share and if you feel comfortable and, vice versa, emoting with them, and I don't just mean laughing, but I mean expressing your anger, expressing your joy, giggling, feeling remorseful or what have you and the person can allow you to go through your own process to share emotionally what you feel.

Karen Covy Host

19:15

I want to dig in a little bit to what you're saying about emotional EQ, because I think a lot of people, especially these days, with all the virtue signaling they're like, oh, you don't care if you're not literally, you know, crying watching the television set, seeing somebody who's you know in a bad way, whether they're living in a war zone or they're living with poverty or they're living with some injustice or whatever, if you're not a wreck yourself over their situation, you don't have empathy. So how can you, you know, can you talk a little bit about that? And where's that line between empathy that's healthy and wholesome and empathy that's just, you know, taking on their energy, as you put it?

Leah Guy Guest

19:58

Yeah, they're actually two totally separate things. So we all have access to empathy. We all know what empathy is. It is relating to, and feeling for, the other person, because we can imagine or understand what they're going through. The other thing is empathic. It's taking on someone's energy, again to be a martyr, or because we don't have clear boundaries or because we think we can fix them, or something like that, and that's a separate thing altogether.

20:27

That's more of like what I would do intentionally when I do my readings, for example. I empath. I enter somebody's field, I feel what they're feeling, I sense what they're sensing, I experienced their reality with them and that's what makes me a good reader. I don't walk around the streets doing that. If I did, I would be drained, I would be exhausted, I'd be upset, I'd be, I'd lose myself. So there's no reason to do that In my opinion, unless you're a professional, unless someone has asked you to do that with them. Maybe you're a hospice caretaker or something like that. But empathy is something it's, it's a divine gift. You know, I'm it's. It's really frustrating to hear, especially like the younger generations now talking about how drained they are because they're so sensitive and they're so empathic, and that's not what empathy gives to us. Empathy is like a nutrient. It is from our heart, it's from our highest heart and it's never draining.

Karen Covy Host

21:23

That is such an interesting perspective because and it's one that I haven't heard from very many people in our world today I think more people are likely to take the position that empathy is the draining kind of empathy, that it's the, it's the empathic, you know, kind of connection to the point of feeling what they feel and feeling what somebody else feels, which, in a way, you can't if that's where you're at you can't really help that person because you're too enmeshed with them.

Leah Guy Guest

21:59

Right yeah.

Karen Covy Host

22:00

You know, I mean, it's an interesting perspective, so all right. So, being empathic, the ability to listen and track your life, like you know, pay attention to what's going on with you, those are all green flags. Let's talk about another one of your green flags. That somebody acts from desire not need Say more about that. What does that mean?

Leah Guy Guest

22:26

This kind of goes back to that codependent conversation we were talking about. It can, but not all people who do this are codependent. There's this belief in a lot of people that enter relationships, thinking that the other person is there to meet their needs. The other person should make them feel beautiful, should make them feel cared for, should make them feel worthy, should make them feel smart or whatever the thing is, and that's not the other person's job. It is our job to feel beautiful. It is our job to feel smart, to know that we are worthy. It is our job to take care of our emotional needs. That is not the job of our partners, our friends, our coworkers or anyone. And so when we enter relationship, a green flag is someone who is able to do that for themselves, that they already feel attractive, that they feel worthy, that they feel happy, that they feel satisfied. They're coming to the relationship to share that and to enhance their life, not to fix their life, not to change their life, not to get some validation outside of themselves. So this is a big, big issue in most relationships.

Karen Covy Host

23:42

Yeah, I can see that. And I'm just chuckling here because back in my single days I used to, you know, tell people. You know, after you've dated for a certain length of time it's like, look, I don't need another project. You know, you just want somebody who is healthy and whole. But how can you, how can you tell if somebody is coming to you from that place of want, not need? Because sometimes that can make you feel like if somebody doesn't need you, it makes you feel less than Well, let me be clear we all need each other and that's what I was saying.

Leah Guy Guest

24:22

There's a little codependence in all of us, which is healthy. There's a little narcissist in all of us, which is somewhat healthy. We all have an ego. But if we're in our higher state of conscious adultness, it's very easy to tell if someone's coming to us with those needs. Because if we're taking care of ourselves and we're not displaying that energy of I need someone to this, I need someone to that, then when we see that with well, first of all we probably won't attract that so easily, but if we did happen to attract that, then we would recognize it very quickly it's crossing over a boundary of ours. It's. You know, I'm not here to do that for you and I love you and support you and I want you to find your sense of self and your confidence and your happiness and your joy and what have you. I'd love to be part of experiencing that with you, but I'm not here to provide that for you. So I think it's a really easy one to tell once we do it for ourselves.

Karen Covy Host

25:25

Yeah, that makes all the sense in the world. And it also seems like your green flags the flip side of them are the red flags as well. Right, you know that when somebody comes to you saying, oh, I need you to, I can't live without you, I blah, blah, blah. I think our first reaction for many people, especially people who haven't done the work, the first reaction is yeah, that's a good thing, but what I hear you saying is, no, that's really not a good thing.

Leah Guy Guest

25:57

Yeah, you know, it's a beautiful thing, like in relationship. If you love to get up and make your spouse or partner coffee, for example, and that's gotten to be your routine, that's a beautiful love language. The person may start to depend on you for that coffee, but they're not going to die without the coffee. They may take it personally if you stop, but hopefully you will want to continue that, because if it's part of your love language, then every time you do that, you're saying I love you, and that's from desire, that's from I want you to have this right now, and this is one simple way I can share my love with you. Versus the feeling of waking up and feeling, oh my God, I need to do something to prove my value, to prove my worth, to make sure he or she knows I love them, to make sure that they're okay, um, so that they don't cheat on me, so that they don't run off from me or abandon me. And when your love, that's a different energy altogether.

Karen Covy Host

26:52

Yeah it feels different when you, even when you say it, it feels more frenetic. Yeah, right, yeah, and is that a good? Would that be one test or one way that somebody could? Because you know if, for anyone who's at least a little bit self-aware, they've got to question themselves sometimes and say am I coming from a place of need or want? Am I, am I being needy? Am I, you know, why? Am I doing the thing that I'm doing, whatever it might be right? So what would be a way for them to tell? Would it be to look at how their own energy feels, or are they looking for something outside of themselves?

Leah Guy Guest

27:30

Well, I think a little bit of both. I mean our bodies and our intuition. Our spirit will always tell us. You know, our bodies keep the score, as that famous book goes. But so there'll be information there. But I think it does take a conscious, intentional awareness, because if we're in a pattern of operating from a needy place, then it will continue to show up, you know. So if we can learn to really ask ourselves and take care of ourselves in a real, authentic way of satisfying our own needs every day and it's a beautiful self-care practice, it's a spiritual practice it's the simple question of what do I need right now to feel nurtured? You know, what do I need right now? To feel seen or heard? Am I holding back somewhere? Is there somewhere I need to express myself or share or do something for myself?

28:18

Or even if it's just being quiet and doing nothing for myself and feeling gentle and loving towards myself, if we can start practicing that and then showing up fully in relationship, then it's usually our hearts that are taking us there. You know, it's not from a needy place. Sometimes we show up, you know, like I'm bored and I want to do something. So can you do something with me? You know that's a common thing, I think, between friends and people. But even there, you know, it's not wrong, it's not bad, but maybe sometimes it's like stay in the boredom, and how can you nurture yourself and let your creativity bubble up in the boredom and have a great time there?

Karen Covy Host

28:59

Yeah, that I mean very good advice. But how can you cause I know you work with energy, a lot with people's energy how can people start to get in tune with their own energy? Because that's something that you know. Some people are really into this world and they understand it. And it might be a new concept for a lot of people. Energy seems like this airy fairy out there thing. So how can people start to tune into their own energy first and then pick up on other people's energy as well?

Leah Guy Guest

29:32

Well, I would say, to work with a person like myself, not just going and getting Reiki I mean, that feels nice and so forth but that's not the fullness of what we're discussing here and both of my books and not the spiritual journal, but the fearless path and overcoming toxic emotions. I really try to teach people. Here's symptoms that you might notice physical symptoms, emotional symptoms, mental symptoms, when energy is off in certain areas of your body, and if that's happening, then here's what might be going on in your life. So I do a lot of teaching about it. There's a lot of people who do teaching about it, but if you work with someone like myself, then you quickly begin to understand. I believe that you know how it all interacts together. It's not energy is one thing, the mind, the body and the emotions are other things. It's all. They're all together simultaneous.

Karen Covy Host

30:25

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. You know, and I think that Western society we tend to compartmentalize. This is your body, this is your mind, this is your, your spirit or your soul, your energy, and I like how you say that they all work together. And working with somebody like you makes a lot of sense for people who you know. How would somebody know that they need to seek you out? Or someone like you Like what would they be experiencing in their life or feeling in themselves?

Leah Guy Guest

30:56

Well, I would say one of the biggest things that people say and you said it in the intro is they'll feel stuck. So that is a big one. Also, though, they may notice if they're having repetitive relationships in their life, if they're feeling like there's more possible for them, if they're not sure what their purpose is, if they have kind of chronic depression or anxiety, if they have symptoms that are arising, you know, over and over again. These are all good signs, and I just want to say you know not to toot my own horn with my work, because there's plenty of other amazing healers out there, but the people I work with sometimes I work with them once a month, sometimes I just get a one off reading here and there A lot of my clients, though, that have worked with me consistently, their lives have changed 180 degrees.

It's so inspiring to witness a person who is dedicated to their growth and to healing and how it changes everything in their lives. It changes their relationships and the jobs and the quality of their lives and their health, and everything. It changes everything.

Karen Covy Host

32:08

In what way? Can you give me an example? No names, obviously, but can you give me an example of some ways that it would change a person or has changed a person?

Leah Guy Guest

32:19

Well, I guess a clear way, a clear example to describe. Let's use work as an example. I've had people in miserable jobs with repetitive kinds of interactions with their bosses or employees or what have you, taking big risks because they're feeling confident, their energy is elevated, they've done their work and so forth and, without even much effort, begin attracting new opportunities, new jobs, promotions, moving to different places, their ideal dream situation. I've seen it time and time again. I've helped many people get out of relationships and into either a positive, wonderful, peaceful relationship with themselves or into new relationships that actually nurture them and go on to have great success.

33:09

I do have some clients that are stubborn and it takes a while because it is hard to break these patterns, and that's why I say, if you're committed to it, working with a person, someone to hold you accountable, someone to mirror back to you where you are growing or where you're feeling resistant, someone that can be honest with you without judging you, without criticizing you, and so forth it's very, very helpful. So I've seen miracles happen. I've seen people unable to get pregnant working on that sacral energy region and, within a couple of months, becoming pregnant. I've seen all kinds of things. It's amazing.

Karen Covy Host

33:47

That sounds amazing and, if you know, I just want to thank you for sharing this kind of wisdom with everyone who's listening. And if somebody wants more, if they want more of you, if they want to find you, where's the best place that they can do that?

Leah Guy Guest

34:02

Probably my website, which is my name, leahguycom. It's L-E-A-H-G-U-Y and my books are all on Amazon or anywhere you order books from Barnes and Nobles or wherever. Social media is at. Leah, the modern sage.

Karen Covy Host

34:17

Oh, I like that. And for those of you who are listening or watching, we're going to link to. Everything will be in the show notes so you can find all of the books, all of the things. Leah, thank you so much for being here. I really appreciate our conversation.

Leah Guy Guest

34:31

Thank you, Karen, it's lovely to be here.

Karen Covy Host

34:32

You're welcome and, for those of you who are watching, who are listening, if you enjoyed today's episode, if you would like more episodes just like this, do me a big favor. Leave me, you know, give me a thumbs up wherever you're listening, wherever you're watching, like subscribe, and I look forward to seeing you again next time.


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Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach, Lawyer, Mediator, Author, and Speaker. She coaches high net worth professionals and successful business owners to make hard decisions about their marriage with confidence, and to navigate divorce with dignity.  She speaks and writes about decision-making, divorce, and living life on your terms. To connect with Karen and discover how she can help you, CLICK HERE.


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