Episode Description - The Hidden Energy Blocks Keeping You Broke - Money Tips
What if your biggest financial breakthrough wasn't about budgets or balance sheets, but about the invisible energy patterns secretly sabotaging your wealth? Susan Glusica, a former corporate finance professional turned money consciousness expert, reveals how she transformed from bankruptcy to prosperity by discovering the hidden connection between your emotional frequency and your bank account ... and that’s just ONE of the money tips she shares in this podcast episode!
After 20 years in corporate finance and experiencing two divorces plus a bankruptcy, Susan created her signature "Money Realities and Realizations" program based on seven distinct levels of money consciousness that correspond to specific energetic frequencies.
Susan's unconventional approach combines hard financial planning with what she calls "energy work" - identifying and shifting the subconscious beliefs that keep you stuck in cycles of financial struggle. She explains how gratitude, detachment, and "quantum leaping" can literally rewire your relationship with money, and help you create the financial abundance you deserve.
Susan’s approach is both practical and metaphysical. She shares specific tools for shifting from scarcity-based thinking to what she calls "unapologetic prosperity" - where making money becomes about purpose rather than desperation. Her integrated approach bridges the gap between traditional financial planning and energy work, offering a both-and solution for people ready to transform their financial reality from the inside out.
Show Notes
About Susan
After 20 years in the “corporate cubicle” side of the financial industry in the US, Susan Glusica had a crisis of legacy and wanted proximity with clients. And after 8 years on the client-facing side offering advanced insurance planning, she realized the biggest money challenge people face is being unaware how to keep, give and grow more so they can be, do, have and give more.
Susan is a multi-time international best-selling author, a Certified Speaker by Women’s Prosperity Network and member, The Dames, a global 6-, 7-, and 8-figure business incubator for women.
Connect with Susan
You can connect with Suan on LinkedIn at Susan Glusica and on Facebook at Susan D Glusica. You can follow Susan on Instagram at Money Energy Mastery and visit her website at Susan Glusica. Catch all of Susan’s latest events right here on her Events Page.
Key Takeaways From This Episode with Susan
- Susan left a 20-year corporate finance career due to a "crisis of legacy" and transitioned into entrepreneurship, driven by a desire to directly impact clients’ financial lives.
- She promotes the idea of not apologizing for one’s financial desires, stressing that wanting more is valid and necessary to fulfill our deeper goals.
- Susan teaches that money is energy and our financial reality reflects our energetic frequency—low energy (like shame or fear) attracts scarcity, while high energy (like gratitude) attracts abundance.
- Her framework outlines seven energetic levels of money consciousness, from scarcity and debt to abundance and legacy-based wealth, each tied to vibrational states.
- Practicing gratitude—even for current struggles—helps shift your energetic state and align you with higher money realities.
- Most money beliefs are inherited and unconscious; Susan helps clients identify and rewrite these stories through reflective questioning and affirmations.
- She encourages “quantum leaps” by processing emotional and mindset blocks quickly using tools like journaling, meditation, and belief release work.
- Susan blends spiritual energy principles with solid financial planning, beginning with coaching to increase cash flow before moving into structured money management.
- A core step in her process is setting clear financial goals, then detaching from the outcome by trusting a higher power and co-creation process.
- Susan offers tools like her book Money Energy Mastery, free guides, and coaching services to help individuals shift their financial reality—starting with awareness and openness to change.
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Transcript
The Hidden Energy Blocks Keeping You Broke - Money Tips
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
prosperity, consciousness, gratitude, abundance
SPEAKERS
Karen Covy, Susan Glusica
Karen Covy Host
00:10
Hello and welcome to Off the Fence, a podcast where we deconstruct difficult decision-making so we can discover what keeps us stuck and, more importantly, how we can get unstuck and start making even tough decisions with confidence. I'm your host, Karen Covy, a former divorce lawyer, mediator and arbitrator, turned coach, author and entrepreneur. And now, without further ado, let's get on with the show.
With me today, I have the pleasure of speaking with Susan Glusica. After 20 years in the corporate cubicle side of the financial industry in the US, Susan had a crisis of legacy and wanted to work more directly with clients. And after eight years on the client-facing side, offering advanced insurance planning, Susan realized that the biggest money challenge people face is being unaware of how to keep, give and grow more so they can be, do, have and give more. In 2018, Susan created her signature program, Money Realities and Realizations, which leverages her discovery of the seven money realities, the seven energetic levels of money consciousness. Seven Money Realities, the Seven Energetic Levels of Money Consciousness, and Susan wrote a book about it called Money Energy Mastery. She's a multi-time international bestselling author, a certified speaker by the Women's Prosperity Network and a member of the Dames, a global six, seven and eight figure business incubator for women. Susan, welcome to the show.
Susan Glusica Guest
01:44
Thank you, thank you for having me.
Karen Covy Host
01:46
I am excited to have you and I'm excited to have this conversation, but before we dive into the meat of it, so to speak, I'm also curious about your journey. How did you go from corporate cubicle to where you are now?
Susan Glusica Guest
02:01
Oh yeah, so walking my talk, obviously, when I was in the financial industry, my whole career, towards the end of that, I had a colleague who actually became a financial advisor and he got in touch with me. He wanted to pick my brain about some marketing stuff, because at the time I was doing marketing and later on I he asked me for my business and he said, you know, I'm pretty sure you know everybody in the company and I'm like, yeah, but nobody's asked me for my business. So he got my business and I really appreciated it's the same planning methodology I use today with my financial clients. That's how much I really enjoyed it, right.
02:41
But because he was an advisor of mine, when it came time to like I didn't see my next step in the corporate arena and I was kind of, you know, reaching out to a few of my advisors, including Joe, and he said why don't you come do what I do? You've always wanted to be a teacher. That's true. I have teaching in my blood and you know, a lot of what I do is education and you'll also see the legacy this was. I had a crisis of legacy so I couldn't see my next step. I couldn't see my foot, my footprint right, my value, that I was leaving my legacy in the industry. I kind of felt like I was getting lost, you know as just one of the cogs in the wheels, and this was a chance to explore a potential way of leaving my legacy. And he was not wrong.
Karen Covy Host
03:33
That's awesome, and the reason that I ask this question is it just seems so apropos today, when so many people are losing their jobs to, you know, corporate downsizing or AI or whatever I mean name the crisis du jour in the various industries, and a lot of people are having to reinvent themselves, and so it's interesting to hear I love hearing people's stories about how and why they did it, because you obviously came out on the better end of the stick.
Susan Glusica Guest
04:04
Well, and it was fortuitous right, but it became because I trusted. So Joe saw something in me that I didn't know was there and I trusted that, and then that led me right to as a mid career changer. Here I am going from solid corporate you know, soldier, so to speak into eat what you kill land and I. Nothing had prepared me for that, and also nothing like entrepreneurship will teach you about yourself right in the same way. So it was a big learning curve and I said I don't have time right to figure this out on my own. So I leveraged coaches. Pretty much within six months of starting that I started leveraging coaches and multiple at any one time, because I was in this quantum leap desire to really shift quickly and I had year 10 both experiences and revenue by year three as a result.
Karen Covy Host
05:05
Wow, that's an amazing story. That's really cool, so thank you for sharing your story. Going up on that and walking your talk, you talk about something that you call unapologetic prosperity. What does that mean to you?
Susan Glusica Guest
05:25
So I have discovered I'm very power forward, I'm a strong masculine energy wrapped in a soft feminine you know, rapper. And so it's a. I attract very strong women and they respond to that phraseology, which, basically, everybody wants something different. Right, prosperity means something different for everybody. For me, unapologetically means like I'm not going to apologize for my desires. Desire alone is worthy. This is what I have come to understand, right? So that unapologetic phrase speaks to that piece. And then the prosperity for me, it's multidimensional. I'm very upfront about what's required in success, especially with money, is to make it all about the money. But we don't want the money, right, we want what the money enables us to be, do, have and give, but you still need to make it all about the money in order to have the money. That then gives you all those options. So that's what the prosperity means to me is that money provides the prosperity things that we want.
Karen Covy Host
06:39
You know, that's interesting because obviously in the space that I am working in right now, because obviously in the space that I am working in right now I work with the people who are going through divorce, recovering from a divorce, maybe in the beginning thinking about a divorce. All you know the entire journey right and prosperity is not something that even seems attainable for a lot of people. They don't know what that is, and I know you talk a lot about money and energy and consciousness and shifting your money consciousness. I think that's a really important message for someone who's going through a period of time in their life when there's not a lot of prosperity or it doesn't feel like that. What would you say to those people? How can they start to think about money and prosperity in a different way?
Susan Glusica Guest
07:31
That's a great question and something I don't think I shared with you. Yet I've gone through two divorces myself, right. So they were very easy, there were no children involved and they were as amicable as I can make them and that experience. So in the from the first one I had a lot of debt. I added to that debt in the second marriage so that by the time I got married the third time, I'm an eternal optimist, I guess. So there you go like seek the optimism, right approach that that's very helpful to keep your energy high, vibe, even during the unpreferred circumstances, right, and we all have them because we're all human, right.
08:16
But I suffered a bankruptcy as a result because I didn't save as much as my financial advisor was telling me to save and I had all of this debt that I had amassed from my first two marriages, being the breadwinner, taking on stepchildren. You know all the things with this optimism of oh, don't worry, I'll make it. You know, make it, it's coming, I'll make it. But that was not the reality, right? The reality smacked me in the face and I ultimately because I was no longer in the corporate world making my six-figure salary I was making my way back to that. That's when the bankruptcy happened, because I couldn't chug fast enough to overcome that serious drag. And I'm talking, I mean, it was a lot.
09:02
So, knowing that situation, having experienced it and having gone through the divorces, I will say my saving grace, so to speak, was understanding first mindset and then energy set, like how energy works, which I learned from Christy Marie Sheldon, which she has a great program, it's called love or above. You can find her on Mind Valley, um, the biggest um online training, you know conglomerate, and it really helped me understand how my frequency, if you will, my vibration right, we're all sentient beings and how that is transferring and actually creating the reality that I'm experiencing right. So I fixed in myself the understanding, or the misunderstanding that, like, the rules don't apply to me, right, I'm a special unicorn, right. No, no, no, no. The rules, ie the universal laws, apply to everyone all the time, always right.
10:03
So I had my business strategist said oh, you think you're a special unicorn? No, honey, right. And so I had that awareness and that helped shift things like oh. So I got to learn the rules play by the rules, so I can leverage the rules for my prosperity, for my abundance, for my right wealth, etc. And legacy, and all that for my abundance, for my right wealth et cetera, and legacy and all that, and that's what I started doing so tell me about that.
Karen Covy Host
10:23
How did you? What specifically did you first? I guess it starts with the realization, the awareness. What did you become aware of about money that helped you start to make that shift?
Susan Glusica Guest
10:42
I was not making it all about the money, it was a secondary or tertiary consideration, right. Number two I it was fine for, like my husband, to make the money right. But when it came time for me, so it's always easier to do for someone else than to do for yourself, right? And so that's why entrepreneurship teaches you a lot about yourself, right? So in that learning curve, right, I was amassing huge amounts of information, tweaking, making adjustments, changing right.
11:16
I was very, very fluid in the early years because I again, I was mid career changer, no time to like on my laurels trying to figure it out and someone would tell me okay, here, do this. I would just automatically go and do it. I didn't have time to think about it, to look at it to you know, get it in my head first before I implemented it. I just went into full implementation and I was unapologetic about that. If someone said something was going to work and they had the experience, I just trusted it. I didn't have time not to right.
11:48
So I would say, when you hire an expert or work with an expert in any field or endeavor, trust that expert knows a lot more than you do about their specific area of expertise. Right In the now arena of oh, I can Google, I can find, I can chat, gtp, ai. Whatever my answers right, I can even have, you know, a free coach in AI. Not necessarily, so I will just say that you know, you trust the people that you're engaging with so that you can stand on their shoulders and go further faster.
Karen Covy Host
12:25
That makes so much sense. I really hear people. I really hope people hear that and listen to it, because especially in the arena of a major life change, when literally the earth underneath you feels like it's shifting, you're not sure what to trust and I see people hiring the experts but then not listening to a thing they say yeah, and that's just a waste on both sides.
12:49
I want to dig into the whole idea of money as energy, because that's a concept that I know a lot of people haven't really. I mean, they haven't put it together in that way before. Right, when you say money is energy, can you say more about that and explain what you mean?
Susan Glusica Guest
13:12
Yeah, so Albert Einstein has, and I'll paraphrase but basically, you know, everything is energy, and so it's about being a frequency match to the reality that you want. It's the same thing with money, and what he means by that is we're all energy, right, we've understood this now in quantum physics and all of that. And so somebody who put it a little bit better right is where I kind of got it from is Sir David Hawkins in his book Power Versus Force, where he identified on a log of zero being death and a thousand being enlightenment, right, all these different states of consciousness is what he calls them. Right, so we're talking about shame, which is 25, very close to death. So that's where, like, you're so ashamed or have a lot of shame about something, like I used to, about my bankruptcy, that you want to crawl, find a rock and crawl under it. Right that that. And when you actually think about shame, your whole being right, gets slower, denser, right, kind of like down to the ground, right that? That's a vibration. Then, on the opposite end of the spectrum, the highest vibrational frequency we can embody physically is 900 on the scale.
14:28
And that's gratitude, and gratitude. When you step into gratitude, like, think about if you've, if you've given birth to a you know, a baby, like the gratitude in that moment, right? Or you've fallen in love, the gratitude that you experience as a human for that moment. Or you see this beautiful sunset or sunrise or what have you? Right, moments of beauty can help get us into that gratitude state. Or you listen to, like you know, a sonata or an opera or right, whatever your thing is to get you into that state. You're in this, expanded, more rapid, if you will. Your energy flows more rapidly, right. The ideas come to you more easily, right, because you're in this expanded state of consciousness. Imagine if you could walk around.
15:16
And this is not about gaslighting the unpreferred emotions or states of consciousness, but it's about embracing more of the positive right, Seeking to be a good finder of. Well, what's the gift in this moment? So you're going through this horrific divorce as, as you know, I didn't have a horrific divorce, but I had two of them, right? So there are horrific moments in any divorce. And I would say to myself, even before knowing what I was doing um, remember the optimistic uh, you know, Susan, well, what's the gift? Right? Like, what's, what am I getting out of this moment? And I could always find the good Gratitude journaling is a great way to do that. Just gratitude, you know, three gratitude’s per day in a journal and before long you'll have like 10, 20 journals and you won't have to journal anymore because all you have to do is look at the shelf with all the gratitude right that you have expressed and tracked and journaled right, so that that is the quantum leap to being in an expansive state that then naturally the way energy works right Naturally attracts the whatever you want.
Karen Covy Host
16:27
And how does somebody know? All right, all right, if I'm following along with this analogy of money as energy how do I know what frequency money vibrates at? Because obviously I want to be there, right.
Susan Glusica Guest
16:41
Okay, so in my seven money realities right, so there are seven different levels and they all correspond to different energy levels, right, so if I'm in one or two, one is a deficient absence, is it's what that's called? And in there, like that's the realm of, like bankruptcy, repossessions, you know, liens, all that, and so there that's an actual state of money. But remember, the universe only knows abundance, so it's the abundant abundance of unpreferred circumstances, too much debt to the money coming in right, too much time on your calendar versus sales conversations, et cetera. Right, so it's an abundance of like the, the, not not the thing that we want.
Karen Covy Host
17:28
Right, so the thing that you don't want.
Susan Glusica Guest
17:29
Correct. And then right on the opposite side of the spectrum, right, so, in enlightened gratitude, as example. So I'm just giving you the bookends, right. Then, because you're in a state of focusing on your purpose. You almost don't even need to focus on the money anymore, because your purpose brings the money in, because you're so. So, as an example, the reason I'm on this podcast is because I said several weeks back, oh, it would be nice to be on a few podcasts, and I got three out of nowhere, right, yeah, so, so, just as an example, right, because my, when, when you're in an expanded state of consciousness, literally your thoughts, right, can create the reality that you want, cause there's nothing in the way, there's no slow, dense vibe, right, like tripping you up. It goes right from your thought or mouth right To the universe and the universe goes here. It can be that way.
Karen Covy Host
18:29
Okay, so all right. So if I'm sitting here and I'm listening to you, I'm like, yeah, that's definitely what I want to do. Is I want to be in that reality, but you mentioned the slow, dense energy. I mean, if, how do I create a positive money reality when the current reality that I'm living in may not be that?
Susan Glusica Guest
18:56
Yeah, you express the quantum leap is. You express gratitude for it, even though you may have to do that through gritted teeth because you don't feel the gratitude. Yet you express the gratitude because when you're grateful for everything, you attract more of what you truly want.
Karen Covy Host
19:14
Okay, but if I'm, if I'm grateful, I'm just playing devil's advocate here, If I'm grateful for everything and what I've got I don't want, am I not just attracting or calling in more of that? It's like I don't want to, you know, be bankrupt or have money issues or whatever. And if I'm, how can I be grateful for something that I'm really not grateful for?
Susan Glusica Guest
19:36
Right, that's a great question. So realize that you weren't in gratitude when you attracted the unpreferred stuff. Expressing gratitude will make you no longer a match for that unpreferred state right Of, not enough of, oh the divorce, or oh, he, she is not, you know, meeting my demands or whatever the thing is right. When you're stuck in those low, slow, dense vibes, that's what you're attracting. When you get yourself out of them through the expression of gratitude, you start to break free of those lower, slower, denser, right For lack of a better word levels, money levels, and you start to open yourself up to the higher levels.
Karen Covy Host
20:31
So how long does this take? Because, like, if I'm hearing you and I'm out there and I'm going through something really horrible either a divorce, a death, I lost my job, I, you know, name the bad thing, right. I want to be done with this ASAP. So how quickly does all of this work?
Susan Glusica Guest
20:47
Well, like anything, there are emotions to process, there's mindset work, right, so it takes as long as it takes like as long as you give it to take. Sometimes it takes years right to release the grief. I can help people release that more quickly and it's different for every person, so I don't want to put like a time on it, but literally you can make a decision right and again, not to gaslight anything but you. Quantum leaping is not about skipping steps. It's about going through them more quickly so you can process right Things more quickly. Like you can do them, you can release subconscious beliefs so that they no longer get in the way. Right, there's, you can do that in like 30 seconds. People are like what, yeah, right, so so it's. It's finding the right tool right that helps you get that quantum leap in a really shortened timeframe.
21:46
If that's what you want, if you want all the time to process then take it, it's time to get out of victimhood right and into owning it Like. Own you your life, your dreams, your desires, your money right. Like, own it, it's yours, it's not for somebody else. Like, and nobody will advocate for you. Like you will advocate for yourself. Right, so own that it's. I have a book coming out like own your money story, because until you do, it's going to be somebody else's and you going to be getting scraps from the prosperity table versus creating your own meals.
Karen Covy Host
22:25
What do you mean when you say own your own money story?
Susan Glusica Guest
22:29
Right. So everybody has a relationship with money and lots of times, in fact, most of the times, it's been programmed by very well-meaning people and entities like schools, religious organizations, even just culture, common culture. You know, in my world it's the US and, like you know, the US was founded on puritanical beliefs and right, so we have a lot still of that. Also, there's ancestral beliefs that are programmed right into your DNA. There's a whole host of reasons that you believe what you believe about money and about your ability to make more money or whatever level of money you know, or to do with what you want with your money. Right, there's, there's, there are beliefs behind it.
23:12
So one of the things I do with my clients is rewrite your money reality story, right, I have a series of nine questions. That gets you super clear on what did you learn and now believe about money from, like your parents and other well-meaning people and entities you know in your life? And then we rewrite them, and then you say that as an affirmation to yourself. Until you're reprogrammed, right, Whether it takes 15 days, 30 days, 90 days, 120 days, that's up to you, right? So that that's what I mean by your money reality story.
Karen Covy Host
23:49
Okay. So I think the challenge because I've done a fair amount of research and work around these concepts and the challenge is if our money beliefs are subconscious or not. Most people aren't aware of what they believe about money. You can't, I don't think, change something unless you're first aware that it exists. So, what can people do to start digging out these beliefs that they probably don't even know they have?
Susan Glusica Guest
24:23
Yeah, right, so you can. You can start to become more aware, right Of, instead of being on autopilot, you can actually step back and witness yourself. However, you're engaging with money and go, wow, I'm curious, right. So, first of all, we have a lot of judgment, we have a lot of self-judgment, right, and all judgment is self-judgment. So a lot of that comes to bear when we're trying to change. I invite everybody first empty your cup, right, become a clean slate and go into neutrality, so that's just coming back to center out of the extremes. And then you go into witness consciousness, so that's going kind of like to the back of your head instead of to the front of your head, right. And you go and now you see everything, but you're seeing it with nonjudgmental, right, total acceptance eyes. And then, when you're going into that witness and observer mode, it's much more easy to see yourself while you're doing the thing and then say, oh, that's curious, that's interesting, I wonder where that comes from. And you will find that out If you go into that inquiry.
25:35
There's many ways to get access to that inquiry. You can meditate on it, you can go, connect to your heart and drop that question in. I wonder what I'm resisting with money. I wonder why I do that with money, whatever the question is, and listen to the answer, right, because that gets us out of our head into our heart. There's a lot of wisdom in the heart. You can journal about it. One of my mentors likes to do like using two pens put the question in one color pen and do the answer in another color pen. There's something about writing it out, right? So for those of us who are, who love like the kinesthetic angle and there's, it connects to your brain waves differently, right the neural pathways when you write it out, so you'll get answers that you didn't even know were there, right, just. These are just a handful of techniques that I'm that I've used.
Karen Covy Host
26:24
I mean this is so fascinating but I get into this stuff. But let's talk about. You know, you mentioned the seven money realities. What are they? Is that what correlates to the David Hawkins scale or is it something else?
Susan Glusica Guest
26:42
Okay, no, that's what correlates. So you will have. You know, there's a, there's level five is loving money, right, so that correlates to the frequency of love. But we're not loving money like loving money, we're loving what money can do for us. That, right. So it's not about greed, it's not about like, oh, I'm gonna take all the money, and right. So it's about I really love and appreciate money in my life so that I can XYZ. Everybody wants something different, right, that's a different level than I'm you know've got sufficient cash flow. And then some I'm, you know, tithing and we're giving philanthropically or whatever. The thing is right, I'm saving sufficiently, so that's 20 percent. And then I have still have money left over, right, so I can afford a really good life. And I'm not even fixating or focusing on the money per se, I'm managing it, right. So I'm not like totally ignoring it, but I'm not worried about it, I'm not right? So I'm in this expanded state and I can just focus on my purpose, right?
Karen Covy Host
27:50
So all right, I want to get into that because it kind of seems like a contradiction. You want to focus on the money, because you want to get the money. You need it to live, to pay the bills, to do all the things, but you also want to focus not on the money but on your purpose. So which is it?
Susan Glusica Guest
28:09
You're talking about detachment. So I teach seven steps to creating the money that you desire. They're loosely based on the 13 steps from Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, right, but I thought there's too many steps in 13. Nobody's ever going to do that. So I like the number seven, so I sussed it down to seven, right? Okay, so one of those steps it's a very important and non-intuitive step is exactly it seems like a paradox, like so I got to get clear on the money. That's step one. How much do I want by when? Right? There's a step two, and step three is detachment Cause now you, now you get to be detached, so you kind of give it over to God, the universe, higher power, whatever you conceive that to be right, because that entity right knows better than you do how that money is going to come to you. And of course, being human, we have to take certain actions in the physical, you know, realm, right? Because we can't just sit on the mountain and go home and have, you know, the money come to us. So it's really important to have that detachment. Ie trust that we are co-creating with God, source, the universe, right, higher power, whatever you conceive that to be that. So that's a detachment right. So our human selves have a hard time with detachment, with that trusting of another right. That's a really important part of the process of creating the money you truly desire. Did that help? Did that clarify?
Karen Covy Host
29:47
Yeah, it did, but it leads to more questions, because trust is something that is so missing, not only from our world today, because at this point, we've got information coming from so many different places. We don't know what to trust, what to believe, what's fake news, what's real news? And when you're going through any kind of a personal crisis whether that is a divorce, whether that is the loss of a job that you thought you would have till the day you died, or retired, whether it is, you know, no matter what it is and there's so many things it seems like that we can all have crises about. Right. The first thing that goes is trust you no longer. You don't even trust yourself.
Susan Glusica Guest
30:31
I was just going to say, and that's the key so when you lose trust, it really comes down to you have lost trust in yourself, and so you can use your body to verify truth, right, this is that, that realm of kinesthesiology, right, that your muscle, the idea is, your muscles know truth versus false, right, so they go strong in the presence of truth. They go weak in the presence of non-truth. So if you are consuming something and you're not sure of its veracity, you can actually check with yourself. There are a number of different ways to do this. You can Google how to use muscle testing. Right, I like to do the okay sign with my non-dominant hand where I'm really really closing in on my you know that where it's open right and close in really really tight, and then I hook my other finger and go through it, and then I I make a statement my name is Susan Glusica, it will not let me pull Right. My name is Karen, right, Because it's not.
Karen Covy Host
31:40
But how can you know that you're not like faking it or doing it on purpose doing?
Susan Glusica Guest
31:45
it that you, you, over time, you develop trust. So if my husband has a decision to make and he's a, he's really great in the head, right, he's got high level of intellect there, but there are limitations to our brain, right, our big beautiful brains, there are limitations. So when he comes to his limit and he comes to me and goes, I don't know what to decide, I'm like you want me to muscle test? He's like, yeah, and I'll muscle test it and then we'll go with that result. And it has not failed us, I'm telling you. But again, I have full faith and trust in it, right? So for me it is a proven methodology. If you're just starting out, do small things, right, Like hold a packet of sugar to your chest, right, because that's a natural substance, and say sugar is good for me, and you'll get the hard. Yes. If you hold saccharin or any other artificial right sweetener, it'll say false, because it's not a natural substance for your body.
Karen Covy Host
32:46
That's really interesting. I'm fascinated by the whole thing and I've seen the muscle testing done where you hold out your arm.
Susan Glusica Guest
32:53
Yeah, so that requires another person.
Karen Covy Host
32:56
That requires another person, and I still, you know.
Susan Glusica Guest
33:00
You can even do this. There are. So if you know, like the heart code or the emotion code, they teach you a faster way to do the muscle testing. And it's really so. It's a nuanced right, like is this like a hard thing or does it go easy? So, like there are. There are different ways to implement this. If you get really, you get really down that rabbit hole. I don't, I stick with what works, I only teach what works right. But there are yeah, there's almost unlimited ways to muscle test.
Karen Covy Host
33:30
Okay, so all right, I'm wrapping my head around all of this, but let's talk about money. Somebody is in a situation where, okay, something happened and they're in lack, they're in scarcity, and they're afraid. Right, they have this giant fear that they're not going to be okay, that, you know, in a year or 10 years, or when they're an old person, they're going to be eating cat food, right? How do, if that's where you find yourself, for whatever reason, how do you start shifting your energy away from that fear and into abundance?
Susan Glusica Guest
34:10
Yeah, so there are some exercises in my book. It's a very thin book, meant to be read very quickly, like within 90 minutes, because I want the fast result. There are some exercises there plus a more detailed description of each of those seven levels, so you can self-identify which one you're in and it has how to get to the next one, right. And you, you know you can join my newsletter and get you know information that way too, because I go into that over. You know I like to have a lot of value add in those emails and I'm on social media, right. So there are ways and I'm not the only expert who, I'm the only one who has my methodology, but I'm not the only one who helps people with their, you know, expanding their money side. But first up is recognizing where you are becoming aware that not that you are responsible for where you are, but you had a role to play, right and to be in inquiry, so that you don't duplicate those results going forward because they are unpreferred. You want to start moving into the arena where you can have full faith and confidence that and own it, that your frequency is creating. So belief shapes reality, right. So you want to get clear. Like what are the beliefs that are creating my reality right now? Go into that observation mode that you know, witness mode, and get clear and then you know by journaling or however else you want to do it meditation, right.
35:52
I have a great person that I use for belief release and that is Dr Yvonne Oswald. She has a site called globalwelcome.com. She does work with people. Like in four hours she will totally rechange your, your life. She has done that for me and a lot of my clients and in fact even saved two young adults from suicide. So it works. Yeah, it's amazing. So if you think you're, like you know, got it bad with the divorce, right, you just go into inquiry, be open to at the time, at the right time, the teacher or the mechanism or the program or the book or whatever will show up Right and you be open Right. That's, that's the biggest thing.
Karen Covy Host
36:38
OK, so before we wrap this up, though I'm curious, we could keep going. I know we could. That's the problem. I could keep talking with you forever. So you've got this energy, the money, energy stuff which is, shall we say, a little bit woo right. That's over there. But then you've also got the solid financial advisor logical side as well. How do you put those two together, or do they work together?
Susan Glusica Guest
37:11
They absolutely do work together. In fact, the reason why I have a coaching practice is because I was like for eight years just doing the financial plan piece and noticing oh, because my planning methodology there is different as well that I'm talking three times, three times three, with people stuck in three plus three plus three. No judgment used to be there myself, right? So the the fit is I want to coach first to get the money in right to the exponential money in first right, and so we can reprogram the money story, clear the money blocks, create and innovate together the top three ways to that money. And the money is various. You know whatever you want. If you want 10K, 5k, more, you know 100K, whatever it is, we can do that right together and I work one-on-one initially with people to do that and then, once the money is coming in regularly, consistently, right, and they understand oh, this is what I do and it's a very efficient process to get the money in.
38:16
Now that I have the money, what do I do with the money beyond living and right? So that is where they can step into my financial practice Again, if they want it and they're a fit. And you know they get clear on what they now want for the money to. You know the money-making money piece. So now they have both. It's a very exponential way of existence.
Karen Covy Host
38:43
That's. It's fascinating to me, and I could clearly keep talking to you for a very long time, but yeah, what I like is I I'm. What I'm hearing from you is that this is not an either or it's a both and.
Susan Glusica Guest
Absolutely I live in the both and.
38:59
Karen Covy Host
I love that all right, but in the interest of our audience's ears, um, I think we have to wrap this up and bring it full circle. So if somebody does have more questions for you, if somebody wants to get a hold of you, where's the best place for them to do that?
Susan Glusica Guest
39:15
Yeah, so everything can be found on my website, susanglusica.com and there is. You can join my website by getting my free guide Seven Prosperity Keys to Making Money with Ease. Again, I love the number seven. And then there's a lot of ad value. There's bonuses with that and I just seek to meet you where you're at and serve, and if I can ever be of further help, just reach out to me.
Karen Covy Host
39:43
That's awesome, Susan. Thank you so much for sharing all of your wisdom the woo and the non-woo here, and for those of you who enjoy today's conversation, please go to Susan's website. Everything that she talked about, that we talked about today, is going to be all linked up in the show notes, so it'll be easy peasy for you to reach her. And, if you enjoy today's episode, if you'd like to hear more episodes just like this, please do me a big favor. Give this episode a thumbs up like subscribe to the podcast, subscribe to the YouTube channel, and I look forward to seeing you again next time.
